Comments on: My review of a Tiny Brute: The Kahr PM9 9mm autopistol http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/ A clear mind, a warm heart and two serving hands... Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:57:11 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: David http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-223 David Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:22:51 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-223 David, I to appreciate your article. As a G26 owner, looking for a little smaller, it's nice to hear some "normal people" reviews for the Kahr. (No offense meant anyone)... I like the idea of having both. I've only had the G26 for 1000 rounds or so, but no misfires or hangups so far. From what I gather, the Kahrs are very well built as well, but they may just be pickier on what you load them with. Again, thanks for the review. David,
I to appreciate your article. As a G26 owner, looking for a little smaller, it’s nice to hear some “normal people” reviews for the Kahr. (No offense meant anyone)…

I like the idea of having both. I’ve only had the G26 for 1000 rounds or so, but no misfires or hangups so far.

From what I gather, the Kahrs are very well built as well, but they may just be pickier on what you load them with.

Again, thanks for the review.

]]> By: Rob http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-221 Rob Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:17:53 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-221 Nicely done Dave!! Writing is really more of a skill than a talent, i.e. it's learned over time. I'm looking at the kahr since it's so small and easy to carry. I would imagine that police, military and tatical trainers would be involved in sustained "shoot outs" vs. the civilians "mugging" or assault i.e. just having a pistol, drawling, aiming and firing will put you light years ahead of most people. So for me the most important thing is to always have a pistol on me. The kahr makes this possible. Thanks again... Nicely done Dave!! Writing is really more of a skill than a talent, i.e. it’s learned over time. I’m looking at the kahr since it’s so small and easy to carry. I would imagine that police, military and tatical trainers would be involved in sustained “shoot outs” vs. the civilians “mugging” or assault i.e. just having a pistol, drawling, aiming and firing will put you light years ahead of most people. So for me the most important thing is to always have a pistol on me. The kahr makes this possible.
Thanks again…

]]> By: avi http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-217 avi Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:37:17 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-217 David instead of carrying two extra mags for your g26, you can just carry one extra g19 mag with a +2 extension that will give you 18rds just 2 short of what you have now. what do you think? David
instead of carrying two extra mags for your g26, you can just carry one extra g19 mag with a +2 extension that will give you 18rds just 2 short of what you have now. what do you think?

]]> By: Jonathan http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-212 Jonathan Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:54:29 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-212 Yes, I also just purchased the PM9 and am looking for night sights and laser. The Kahr PM9 is a great as a pocket gun or in a holster. I did have several rounds jam on initial load cycle but after 4 or five boxes of Remington 9mm practice rounds it now shoots flawlessly. I carry a Glock 26 and use the Kahr PM9 for backup, I also have a Glock 19 and the Remington 870 12 gage for home defense. I have a Cameron Derringer 2 shot that shoots Long Rifle Hollow Points to backup the Kahr. I would love to find an AR-15 that was chambered for 9mm, but in the mean time I am going to convert my Ruger 10-22 to a 25 shot AR Styled assault rifle. Who can afford the .223 ammo if you can even find it in stores? Cheers, Jonathan Yes, I also just purchased the PM9 and am looking for night sights and laser. The Kahr PM9 is a great as a pocket gun or in a holster. I did have several rounds jam on initial load cycle but after 4 or five boxes of Remington 9mm practice rounds it now shoots flawlessly. I carry a Glock 26 and use the Kahr PM9 for backup, I also have a Glock 19 and the Remington 870 12 gage for home defense. I have a Cameron Derringer 2 shot that shoots Long Rifle Hollow Points to backup the Kahr. I would love to find an AR-15 that was chambered for 9mm, but in the mean time I am going to convert my Ruger 10-22 to a 25 shot AR Styled assault rifle. Who can afford the .223 ammo if you can even find it in stores?
Cheers,
Jonathan

]]> By: davidgiuffre http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-184 davidgiuffre Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:13:16 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-184 Hey there, JasonC! Thanks for writing. I've been carrying the Glock 26 in a black Galco concealable belt holster when I'm wearing my double thickness gun belt. (I can't recommend buying a good gun belt enough) http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.asp?ProductID=243&GunID=50 In a pinch, if I'm just wearing a regular belt, I use my little Galco Jak Slide holster. I couldn't find a link to it on their website, but they are all over the web. Now that it is warmer out, I've been wearing short-sleeve bowler-type shirts that hang down a bit lower and conceal the gun and my mag holder perfectly. If it is the slightest bit cool, I will wear a light jacket which also covers the gun just fine. The bowler shirts work really well, however. Not my first choice in fashion, but they work. As I continue to lose weight, the gun becomes easier to conceal, as I wear it right behind my right hip. Hey there, JasonC! Thanks for writing.

I’ve been carrying the Glock 26 in a black Galco concealable belt holster when I’m wearing my double thickness gun belt. (I can’t recommend buying a good gun belt enough)

http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.asp?ProductID=243&GunID=50

In a pinch, if I’m just wearing a regular belt, I use my little Galco Jak Slide holster. I couldn’t find a link to it on their website, but they are all over the web.

Now that it is warmer out, I’ve been wearing short-sleeve bowler-type shirts that hang down a bit lower and conceal the gun and my mag holder perfectly.

If it is the slightest bit cool, I will wear a light jacket which also covers the gun just fine.

The bowler shirts work really well, however. Not my first choice in fashion, but they work.

As I continue to lose weight, the gun becomes easier to conceal, as I wear it right behind my right hip.

]]> By: jasonc http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-180 jasonc Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:52:45 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-180 Can you comment at all about how you are now caring the glock and maybe the exact holster that you are carrying now (i know that you mentioned generally what it is)? I know you mentioned that you often times have your shirt tucked in and I am curious of how exactly you are carrying to learn a little bit for myself... thanks in advance! Can you comment at all about how you are now caring the glock and maybe the exact holster that you are carrying now (i know that you mentioned generally what it is)? I know you mentioned that you often times have your shirt tucked in and I am curious of how exactly you are carrying to learn a little bit for myself… thanks in advance!

]]> By: Jarhead http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-177 Jarhead Sat, 09 May 2009 17:00:19 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-177 Hey this has been some great feedback on the Khar and the Glock. This is my second post and as I stated in my earier post I own both. David, I have to say I agree with you on wishing Glock could make a more streamlined sub-compact weapon to make carrying a bit easier. TJ, you right about Glock firing any ammo you load. I've fired every round immaginable through my Glock (propbably in the area of 8000 rounds and never experienced ant type of malfuntion! I own a PM-9 and for the first time I've experienced a problem with it. When I load a magazine and feed into the butt of the weapon and attempt to chamber the 1st round the upper receiver or slide locks in the open position. I can assist it home by holding the slide back and applying light pressure to the bottom of the magazine and it will slide home feeding the 1st round correctly and I can fire the weapon emptying the magazine with no misfeeds at all. The only hang up is with chambering the 1st round. I called Khar directly and they explained that it is a pin that is not allowing the magazine to seed correctly and they are mailing one out to me now at no cost. I currently use (Speer Gold Dot) LUGER +P 124 Grain GDHP ammunition. This ammo kicks like a mule! I know first hand how effective this ammo is because one of my close freinds had to defend himself few months ago against someone in traffic in Ft Lauderdale and unfortunately had to use his weapon. The bad news is someone lost their life, but the good news is that the PM-9 and the above named ammo did its job with 1 round center mass, and the shoot was justified. The grand jury clreared him of any wrong doing. Although I've experienced a small problem with this weapon, I'm confident that Khar will get it worked out and the hint of any issues will go away. I would still recommend this weapon to everyone! I'll post again once I receive the replacment part for the PM-9 and after I test it thoroughly. Hey this has been some great feedback on the Khar and the Glock. This is my second post and as I stated in my earier post I own both. David, I have to say I agree with you on wishing Glock could make a more streamlined sub-compact weapon to make carrying a bit easier. TJ, you right about Glock firing any ammo you load. I’ve fired every round immaginable through my Glock (propbably in the area of 8000 rounds and never experienced ant type of malfuntion! I own a PM-9 and for the first time I’ve experienced a problem with it. When I load a magazine and feed into the butt of the weapon and attempt to chamber the 1st round the upper receiver or slide locks in the open position. I can assist it home by holding the slide back and applying light pressure to the bottom of the magazine and it will slide home feeding the 1st round correctly and I can fire the weapon emptying the magazine with no misfeeds at all. The only hang up is with chambering the 1st round. I called Khar directly and they explained that it is a pin that is not allowing the magazine to seed correctly and they are mailing one out to me now at no cost. I currently use (Speer Gold Dot) LUGER +P 124 Grain GDHP ammunition. This ammo kicks like a mule! I know first hand how effective this ammo is because one of my close freinds had to defend himself few months ago against someone in traffic in Ft Lauderdale and unfortunately had to use his weapon. The bad news is someone lost their life, but the good news is that the
PM-9 and the above named ammo did its job with 1 round center mass, and the shoot was justified. The grand jury clreared him of any wrong doing. Although I’ve experienced a small problem with this weapon, I’m confident that Khar will get it worked out and the hint of any issues will go away. I would still recommend this weapon to everyone! I’ll post again once I receive the replacment part for the PM-9 and after I test it thoroughly.

]]> By: m1mike http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-176 m1mike Wed, 06 May 2009 20:49:58 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-176 Ben The Kahr PM9 is one of the finest 9mm compact autos I have come across. It has all the attributes of a concealable combat side arm. It is meant for serious business. All the issues I described earlier will be worked out. I may end up sending it back to Kahr but eventually I will have a powerful sidearm that is easily concealed and will go bang when needed to. My issues could have been anything from using cheap ammo to a limp rist. Kahr is sending me another recoil spring guide, that makes number 2. No cost to me. If this along with a better quality of ammo doesn’t work I will send it back and they will fix it or replace it. It comes with a 5 year guarantee to the original owner. A friend of mine just purchased a compact Kimber in 45 cal. Outstanding gun. However, like you I am on the slim side and would have problems concealing it. I use a Desantis Apache Ankle Rig. Keeps it tight against my leg and is comfortable. I also use the Apache rig for my Chief Special as well as my Keltec P32. By the way, I was using Remington 115 grain jhp and 147 grain jhp as well as target loads, all purchased at Walmart for around 14$ for 50. The 147 grain was the one I had failure to feed issues. The other worked great. I just purchased Winchester 124 grain silver tips (backordered or course). When I get the new guide rod and spring I’ll try again. Anyways, good luck on your purchase. Ben
The Kahr PM9 is one of the finest 9mm compact autos I have come across. It has all the attributes of a concealable combat side arm. It is meant for serious business. All the issues I described earlier will be worked out. I may end up sending it back to Kahr but eventually I will have a powerful sidearm that is easily concealed and will go bang when needed to. My issues could have been anything from using cheap ammo to a limp rist. Kahr is sending me another recoil spring guide, that makes number 2. No cost to me. If this along with a better quality of ammo doesn’t work I will send it back and they will fix it or replace it. It comes with a 5 year guarantee to the original owner. A friend of mine just purchased a compact Kimber in 45 cal. Outstanding gun. However, like you I am on the slim side and would have problems concealing it. I use a Desantis Apache Ankle Rig. Keeps it tight against my leg and is comfortable. I also use the Apache rig for my Chief Special as well as my Keltec P32. By the way, I was using Remington 115 grain jhp and 147 grain jhp as well as target loads, all purchased at Walmart for around 14$ for 50. The 147 grain was the one I had failure to feed issues. The other worked great. I just purchased Winchester 124 grain silver tips (backordered or course). When I get the new guide rod and spring I’ll try again. Anyways, good luck on your purchase.

]]> By: Ben http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-175 Ben Tue, 05 May 2009 19:12:56 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-175 Am I correct in assuming that all of these malfunctions have been with the PM9? what about the all steel versions? Or will they conceivably have the same feeding issues since I'm sure the design and dimensions are identical. I'm looking for my first CCW purchase and was impressed by the Kahr reviews, this was the first forum I found that had negative issues, but also the first for the polymer version. What other options are out there for a single stack 9mm? My only pistol experience is with the US Army Beretta, and being a skinny guy, I need something with a much thinner profile. Thanks for the great discussions here from everybody! Am I correct in assuming that all of these malfunctions have been with the PM9? what about the all steel versions? Or will they conceivably have the same feeding issues since I’m sure the design and dimensions are identical. I’m looking for my first CCW purchase and was impressed by the Kahr reviews, this was the first forum I found that had negative issues, but also the first for the polymer version. What other options are out there for a single stack 9mm? My only pistol experience is with the US Army Beretta, and being a skinny guy, I need something with a much thinner profile.
Thanks for the great discussions here from everybody!

]]> By: m1mike http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-174 m1mike Mon, 04 May 2009 21:00:11 +0000 http://davidgiuffre.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/my-review-of-a-tiny-brute-the-kahr-pm9-9mm-autopistol/#comment-174 Dave and TJ, I just got back from the range. My PM9 was thoroughly cleaned and well lubed. I have three magazines, one 7 round and 2 six. I was using 147 grain Remington jhp and 115 grain Remington and Winchester jhp as well as some 115 target loads. I experienced the same failure to feed TJ was experiencing with the 147 grain jhp, usually the second or third round. The 115 grain both jhp and target worked beautifully. I don’t mind using the smaller round but am concerned with this type of failure. Am thinking of sending it back to Kahr as it is less than one month old and under warranty. However, if all it is is the type of ammo I can live with it. Although like you I might have a slight problem with confidence. All the reviews I have read as well as the way it shoots tell me this is a fine handgun for CC. By the way, the problem I was experiencing with the recoil spring guide seems to have worked itself out. Guess I put the darn spring in backwards….a first. Mike Dave and TJ,
I just got back from the range. My PM9 was thoroughly cleaned and well lubed. I have three magazines, one 7 round and 2 six. I was using 147 grain Remington jhp and 115 grain Remington and Winchester jhp as well as some 115 target loads. I experienced the same failure to feed TJ was experiencing with the 147 grain jhp, usually the second or third round. The 115 grain both jhp and target worked beautifully. I don’t mind using the smaller round but am concerned with this type of failure.
Am thinking of sending it back to Kahr as it is less than one month old and under warranty. However, if all it is is the type of ammo I can live with it. Although like you I might have a slight problem with confidence. All the reviews I have read as well as the way it shoots tell me this is a fine handgun for CC.
By the way, the problem I was experiencing with the recoil spring guide seems to have worked itself out. Guess I put the darn spring in backwards….a first.
Mike

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